Russian River Watershed Council

Full Council Meeting

Minutes of November 20, 1999

Veterans Memorial Building, Cloverdale, 9 am - 1 pm

 

 

Draft RRWC Budget FY 2000 & FY 2001
RWQCB - TMDL Information
MOU Request
Model RRWC Agenda
Rules of Operation (Draft)

 

 

APPROVAL OF AGENDA: A request was made to move items that were not addressed at previous meeting to the beginning of the meeting to ensure that the past items are discussed - specific item: Use of the RRWC name. Use of RRWC name was moved to before break. Announcements moved to first item after the break.

Agenda approved.

APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Minutes approved

VOTING RULES: The Steering Committee supported a proposal to increase the voting percentage to a two thirds (2/3) majority rule:

"recommend that the full RRWC change the voting percentage to a two thirds (2/3) majority vote for a period of one year, at which time a new vote will be taken to determine if the voting requirements will change"

This was presented by three (3) representatives of the Steering Committee (one from each caucus) to illustrate and explain the reasons for their compromise position.

Discussion:

Pros:

  • Proposal passed with two thirds (2/3) vote in Steering Committee
  • Economic caucus believes that to work together 2/3 shows greater support and consensus for decisions made by the RRWC.
  • Appears workable and shows support for all concerns
  • 2/3 represents a difference of only three (3) votes.

Cons:

  • Every other voting body is 50% plus 1
  • 60% is already a super-majority
  • Already decided this &endash; lets move on
  • Vote in one year should be 60%

Proposal Amendment:

"recommend that the full RRWC change the voting percentage to a two thirds (2/3) majority vote for a period of one year, at which time the vote would automatically revert back to 60% before any reconsideration of 2/3 voting requirement."
 
Steering Committee Proposal
Amended Proposal
FIRST VOTE
SECOND VOTE
FIRST VOTE
SECOND VOTE
TOTAL RRWC VOTING MEMBERS: 46

NEED 60% TO PASS &endash; 28 VOTES

TOTAL RRWC VOTING MEMBERS: 47

NEED 60% TO PASS &endash; 29 VOTES

TOTAL RRWC VOTING MEMBERS: 46

NEED 60% TO PASS &endash; 28 VOTES

TOTAL RRWC VOTING MEMBERS: 47

NEED 60% TO PASS &endash; 29 VOTES

AYE: 27
AYE: 28
AYE: 17
AYE: 23
OPPOSE: 19
OPPOSE: 19
OPPOSE: 16
OPPOSE: 20
ABSTAIN: 0
ABSTAIN: 0
ABSTAIN: 13
ABSTAIN: 2

Neither proposal passed.

A request made on the floor to reconsider and vote one more time on amended proposal. Request was seconded and revote taken.

Amended Proposal: "recommend that the full RRWC change the voting percentage to a two thirds (2/3) majority vote until the first meeting of the year 2001 at which time the vote would automatically revert back to 60% before any reconsideration of 2/3 voting requirement."

VOTE TALLY

AYE: 32

OPPOSE: 13

ABSTAIN: 0

AMENDED PROPOSAL APPROVED

MOU: Draft MOU sent to Resources Agency by Budget/MOU work group. Jay Halcomb requested that a delegation be sent to Sacramento to meet with Resources Agency to discuss and finalize MOU. Suggestion to send one representatives from each caucus. Budget/MOU work group will meet to discuss which representatives will go. Members interested in developing MOU contacted Jay Halcomb.

BUDGET: Draft budget presented by Jay Halcomb, coordinator of Budget/MOU work group. The budget focuses on broad categories to enable the RRWC to adjust funds as needs are identified during the upcoming year.

Motion to accept as proposed.

Pros:

  • Provide funding for new data gathering and synthesis
  • Presently the existing data is at different locations and in different formats. Reliability and usability of existing data has to be reviewed and evaluated. This task is time consuming and complicated. Funding identified for this process is reasonable.

Cons:

  • SB 271 and SB291 identify funding for implementation &endash; oppose spending two years for data gathering and sythesis.

Comment:

Miles Croom, NMFS, stated that Circuit Riders has been funded by NMFS to complete a GIS data system for the Russian River watershed. This may enable RRWC funding to be used elsewhere. GIS system is to compliment the information system being considered by RRWC.

VOTE TALLY:

AYE: 46

OPPOSE: 0

ABSTAIN: 2

PROPOSAL APPROVED

COUNCIL COORDINATOR: Tim Derry presented a draft request for proposal - seeking input from RRWC.

Comments:

  • Responsibility for overseeing RRWC process should remain with Steering Committee &endash; not be given to the coordinator. Tim explained that the coordinator will support the day to day operation of the RRWC.
  • Should not take direction from individual members &endash; only from RRWC and Steering Committee. Coordinator would report to full RRWC for some matters but for day-to-day operations of the RRWC - report to Steering Committee.
  • GIS knowledge should not be given the importance identified in draft
  • Emphasis of budgetary understanding is too great.
  • Change title of position to: Watershed Council Coordinator
  • Should be more than 20 hours per week, probably full time

Contact Time Derry if you are interested in developing request for proposal.

PROPOSAL: Representatives take RFP to caucuses for input &endash; input will be reviewed by Steering Committee and the Steering Committee will finalized the RFP for submittal and support from different agencies.

VOTE TALLY:

AYE: 43

OPPOSE: 0

ABSTAIN: 0

PROPOSAL APPROVED

USE OF RRWC NAME:

Two Main Concerns:

  • Enough time to make decisions
  • This will be discussed as part of Rules of Operation
  • Don’t have RRWC name linked to programs or goals that RRWC was not involved in developing.
  • Agencies should only make statements about RRWC that are accurate &endash; all else identified as opinion &endash; individuals within RRWC should not speak for RRWC.
  • Public Outreach work group will assist in managing and ensuring that this is not a problem in the future.
  • There should be clear disclaimer that state individuals and/or groups are not speaking for RRWC, unless approved by RRWC. Suggested wording:
  • "Name of RRWC shall not be used as an endorsement and/or as a representation without the consent of the RRWC."
  • Suggestion that language be refined and brought back to RRWC for approval.

ANNOUNCMENTS:

  • RRWC Holiday Party &endash; January 7, 2000 at 7:00p.m. at Brutoco Winery in Hopland. Bring Snacks!
  • 1999 Russian River Clean-up included 225 volunteers &endash; was very successful.
  • June 3, 2000 &endash; National River Clean-up Day &endash; join the effort!
  • Grant received by Kathy Reese for the removal of illegal dumping on agricultural land along Mark West and Laguna &endash; removed 920 tires, 800lbs. of glass, plus refrigerators, plastic, trash, etc.
  • Coastal Conservancy reported on many and varying activities in the Russian River watershed.
  • Fish Friendly Farming is being recognized and adopted in other parts of California and the world.
  • EQIP (Environmental Quality Incentives Program) &endash; accepting proposals &endash; see Tom Schott, NRCS, USDA offices
  • California Native Plants Society presentation at Flamingo Hotel on December 9, 1999 at 10:00 a.m..
  • Upper Eel Watershed Forum is recruiting for coordinator position.
  • Grape Creek Restoration &endash; very cooperative effort &endash; good opportunity for field trip. Bob Coey suggested that RRWC visit site.
  • Concern for levels of mercury in Lake Pillsbury. Bob Klamt responded that the issue has been referred to the office of Environmental Health Hazard Assessment. Mercury is being monitored in Lake Mendocino and lake Sonoma and when the levels get to a threshold, they will be reported for action, as well.

RULES OF OPERATIONS: Draft distributed for consideration &endash; no vote today.

Comments:

  • Voting criteria should be amended
  • Organizing the RRWC by caucus is unnecessarily divisive and should be eliminated.
  • Reconsider maintaining membership in caucuses &endash; open up so members (instead of caucuses) identify replacements or some other way of organizing.
  • Concern that agenda not be closed going into meeting (i.e. do all agenda items have to go through Steering Committee prior to general meeting? &endash; No, the exception would be emergencies and would need a high percentage of RRWC vote to add to agenda.). Agenda needs to be finalized prior to RRWC meeting so that material can be mailed.
  • Membership in RRWC should be approved by RRWC &endash; not by caucuses
  • Steering Committee quorum with representation of all caucuses may be a problem &endash; one caucus can hold Steering Committee hostage and prevent action.
  • Each proposal before RRWC should have sponsorship from at least one member of each caucus.
  • Page 5 Section 3 &endash; add that work groups must have representation of all 3 caucuses for proposals being brought to the RRWC to minimize problems and remove the debates taking place at RRWC meetings.
  • Important that work groups able to meet without every caucus represented at meetings.
  • Reword section to enable workgroups to designate a liaison with Steering Committee.
  • Tighten voting procedure &endash; 1) Distribution of voting cards 2) steps in voting process.
  • Consider conflict of interest &endash; no financial reward for RRWC members for work coming out of RRWC.
  • Rules of operation should be written to enable document to meet the State’s non-profit requirements.
  • Length of term for Steering Committee should be limited to 1 year. Let caucuses decide if representatives should serve for more that one year.
  • What constitutes a quorum?
  • How should proxies/alternates be handled

Contact Al Giordono if interested in finalizing rules of operation:

Dennis O’Brien
Suzanne Marr
Bob Clemens
Kathy Hayes
Nick Tibbets
Jay Halcomb
Rusty Klassen

AGENDA FRAMEWORK: Members of the RRWC requested that the Steering Committee present a proposed agenda framework to structure future agendas. Steering Committee has reviewed and supports idea. RRWC requested that this item be the first item of business at the next meeting.

Kathy Reese requested that some meetings be held during the evening to replace some Saturday meetings. RRWC supported Saturday meetings being replaced by an occasional evening meeting.

NEXT MEETING AND AGENDA ITEMS:

  • Next RRWC meeting: January 29, 1999 at the Cloverdale Veteran’s Hall
  • Discussion of proposed agenda framework first item of business at the next meeting.
  • Miles Croom, NMFS will give a presentation about Chinook and Steelhead listings.
  • Consider placing representatives of Mendocino and Sonoma Counties Board of Supervisors as voting members of RRWC.



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